What makes a top sales hire? Itโs not always the resume. In this episode of Between Two Hires, host Tom Hannigan interviews Cody Voorhees, a seasoned sales leader with experience at Yelp, Product School, and currently at health tech company Alma.
With over 800 interviews conducted, Cody shares real-world, unfiltered insights into what separates standout candidates from the restโand why grit and coachability consistently beat credentials and polish.
Hire for Hustle, Train for Skill
Codyโs most successful hire wasnโt someone with years of SaaS experience or a perfect resume. It was a military veteran with no tech background, referred by a friend. That candidate went on to become a VP of Sales and later a CRO.
“If someone has grit and work ethic, you can teach everything else.”
By contrast, his worst hire had an impressive resume and nailed the interview, but raised red flags during reference checks, including one that ended with, โI plead the fifth.โ
Codyโs Hiring Playbook
1. Trust Your Gut but Verify
While instincts are important, Cody emphasizes the value of reference checks to confirm a candidateโs track record.
- If timelines seem vague or references are evasive, investigate.
- Always close the loop on red flags.
2. Leverage Alumni Networks
Cody frequently taps into Yelpโs alumni network to source strong candidates. These referrals often come with built-in trust and cultural alignment.
3. Use Live Coaching Loops
A key part of Codyโs interview process includes a real-time feedback role play.
- He provides immediate coaching.
- The candidate then re-roles to see how they apply the feedback.
This tests adaptability and openness, core traits he values over polish.
“Coachability is more important than a perfect performance.”
An Underrated Interview Metric: Sports Backgrounds
Cody believes past participation in college or club sports reveals a lot about a candidateโs ability to handle pressure, take feedback, and remain accountable.
- Itโs not about athleticismโ
- Itโs about resilience and team mindset.
Final Takeaway: Donโt Settle
Earlier in his career, Cody admitted to making rushed hiring decisions. Today, his philosophy is clear:
“Only hire A-players. Itโs worth the wait.”
Listen to the full episode of Between Two Hires to hear more tactical hiring advice, red flag stories, and Codyโs approach to building high-performing, resilient sales teams.
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