In this special episode of Beyond the Offer, co-hosts Rosanna Snediker and Bill Gates (no, not that one) drop the guest format and go full throwback. They rewind the tape on their 15+ year recruiting careers, how they met, what’s changed in the industry and what hasn’t.
This is the real story of two agency lifers who went from pounding the phones at Tech Systems to building long-term careers (and lasting friendship) inside Hirewell.
Meet the Hosts: From QA Pods to HR Partners
Bill and Rosanna met in the trenches, tech recruiting trenches, to be exact. They started at Tech Systems, where the culture was pure hustle: long hours, full dials, and skill-aligned teams. Rosanna trained Bill on QA roles, and even after he left, they stayed close. Eventually, a well-timed lunch led to her joining Hirewell, where they’ve worked side by side for the last 10 years.
Why They’ve Stayed in Recruiting This Long
It’s not just about placing candidates. For both Bill and Rosanna, the heart of recruiting is relationships and the privilege of helping people build careers, not just land jobs.
They also love the bird’s-eye view recruiting provides: “We’ve gotten to learn a little about a lot of industries,” Rosanna says. “And that keeps things interesting.”
Hiring Trends, 2020–2025: Rollercoaster Edition
The past five years have been a wild ride. From the hiring freeze of early COVID to the overheated job market of 2021, and now into a more stable, but still shifting, landscape, they’ve seen it all.
- What’s Steady: Manufacturing, healthcare, and financial services
- What’s Slowed: SaaS and tech
- What’s Changed: Remote work is here to stay but only where there’s real flexibility, not just perks
They also call out the lag between job reports and real market trends. As Rosanna puts it, “If you want real-time data, ask a recruiter.”
Private Equity: Fad or Future?
More of their clients are PE-backed, but they’re not sure if that’s a macro trend or just a reflection of Hirewell’s focus. Either way, PE firms are taking a bigger seat at the hiring table, especially at the leadership level. And for candidates, PE experience is now a career asset, not a red flag.
RPO: When to Go External
When should companies outsource recruiting? According to Bill, it comes down to hiring volume and duration. If you’re scaling up for six months, don’t build an internal team you’ll have to lay off. That’s where RPO makes sense.
And no, it’s not just for high-volume, hourly hiring anymore.
Executive Search: Process is Everything
Hiring senior leaders takes more than a job post and a gut check. From stakeholder alignment to executive coaching, Bill and Rosanna outline what good orgs get right and what they often miss when filling top seats.
Key Takeaways:
- Relationships > Transactions. Good recruiters are career consultants, not just headhunters.
- Talent trends lag in the news but show up fast in recruiting pipelines.
- RPO is a strategic tool, not just a fallback for high volume.
- Executive search needs process, not just pedigree.
- Culture isn’t perks, it’s how decisions get made, feedback gets given, and work gets done.
🎧 Listen to the full episode of Beyond the Offer for real talk on hiring trends, career pivots, and what it takes to stay in this game for the long haul.
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